OCCUPY STUDENT DEBT

Student debtor stories submitted by the 99%

I went to college when it was “affordable”, certainly more affordable than it is now. I was a single mom with an 8 year old when I started college in 1986 at almost 30. I took out few loans for undergrad, thanks to Pell Grants. There was twice as much money available in Pell Grants back then. I had to take out more loans in graduate school. Even though I had a fellowship, survival as a responsible parent required loans. Note that when you apply for financial aid, or earn a fellowship, it only covers the applicant, not dependents, so young parents start in the hole.
I’m now in my 50s, disabled on a walker, on Social Security. Although I am deemed disabled by Social Security, not so for financial aid. It’s an even higher standard to discharge your loans for disability than it is to get Social Security. Note that you have to gimp through a lot of hoops to get it. Usually, it requires an attorney to appeal the almost automatic denials of initial claims.
So, for another 18 years (20 years total), I have to complete an Income-Based Repayment form. Don’t get me wrong. I’m grateful Obama made this option available, because I had run out of deferrals. But, if I’m too ill, the bills start rolling in, adding stress to physical pain. If I end up totally incapacitated, with no one eligible to complete the form for me, my loans will go to collections. Isn’t that great?
My heart aches for single parents, especially, hoping for a degree. It’s practically impossible to do without at least $60,000 in loans, with today’s tuition costs, book prices, and the need for laptops. Current  policies condemn so many to give up their dream. I managed to get my education, but scarcely had time to earn twice what I had earned before getting my degree, and never got to repay my loans, small as they were.
My loans have more than doubled with all the deferrals. It’s like a quicksand. And, thanks to a lousy HMO, I’m too disabled to earn or enjoy all I worked for.

I went to college when it was “affordable”, certainly more affordable than it is now. I was a single mom with an 8 year old when I started college in 1986 at almost 30. I took out few loans for undergrad, thanks to Pell Grants. There was twice as much money available in Pell Grants back then. I had to take out more loans in graduate school. Even though I had a fellowship, survival as a responsible parent required loans. Note that when you apply for financial aid, or earn a fellowship, it only covers the applicant, not dependents, so young parents start in the hole.

I’m now in my 50s, disabled on a walker, on Social Security. Although I am deemed disabled by Social Security, not so for financial aid. It’s an even higher standard to discharge your loans for disability than it is to get Social Security. Note that you have to gimp through a lot of hoops to get it. Usually, it requires an attorney to appeal the almost automatic denials of initial claims.
So, for another 18 years (20 years total), I have to complete an Income-Based Repayment form. Don’t get me wrong. I’m grateful Obama made this option available, because I had run out of deferrals. But, if I’m too ill, the bills start rolling in, adding stress to physical pain. If I end up totally incapacitated, with no one eligible to complete the form for me, my loans will go to collections. Isn’t that great?
My heart aches for single parents, especially, hoping for a degree. It’s practically impossible to do without at least $60,000 in loans, with today’s tuition costs, book prices, and the need for laptops. Current policies condemn so many to give up their dream. I managed to get my education, but scarcely had time to earn twice what I had earned before getting my degree, and never got to repay my loans, small as they were.
My loans have more than doubled with all the deferrals. It’s like a quicksand. And, thanks to a lousy HMO, I’m too disabled to earn or enjoy all I worked for.

Sallie Mae Sounds Like, But Is Not, A Nice Farmgirl

It’s not really about the money for me, I don’t have any money. It’s more about the education I sought and did not get. My first day of college was 9/11, after which the atmosphere of the small New York liberal arts college that sold me the Sallie Mae loan suddenly degenerated to something other than educational. A political disagreement with a professor led him to deny me credit, which led the college to reduce my scholarship, which led to the early demise of my academic life. Ten years of marginal living and a few sporadic payments later, I hold a threatening default collection letter from NYSHESC, and I still have difficulty believing that I owe them anything, since the education I was paying for was not made available to me after my freshman year. Add to this the frustration of going through endless deferment processes at the advice of Sallie’s outsourced Indonesian phone operators, only to have my many applications lost, ignored, and denied. Add to this the endless midnight robo-calls, and that I already suffer from lifelong bouts with insomnia. Add to this that I have not given up, and have attended school several times since, always being required to take out more loans, and each time receiving little or nothing of value from these paradoxical government-accredited/corporate-money-ruled educational institutions. This is the making of an occupier. I attend full-time at the school of life now, working in my local community, volunteering and working on organic farms, learning life-skills from people who never went to college. My life is good, I’m not complaining. I just don’t see any validity in a contract I signed at the age of 18, before I had any way of knowing what would then happen to my country, or how far I would have to wander beyond the university system before I found my real education. I wonder how much they’ve profited from SLABS-trading of my loan over the last ten years? I wonder if NYSHESC will try to repossess my shovel and work gloves? Perhaps I can pay them in beets?

Classic Sallie Mae Negotiations

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Options Sallie Mae has given me in order to pay my loan:

1. Borrow from friends and family - $60,000 + 18 percent interest by the way.

2. Take out another private loan and use it to pay the current private loan.

3. Fill out a bunch of applications for credit cards, and pay the loan with those. (My credit score is below 500 due to Sallie Mae - so I either can’t get a credit card / or can get me one with an interest rate of 35 percent or higher)

4. Intentionally hurt myself or fill out a false accident claim so I can cash in on a settlement. (This is an honest to god suggestion from a Sallie Mae employee.)

5. Don’t pay my rent or buy groceries for the month. But pay my phone so Sallie Mae can continue to call me ten times a day.

6. Sell my car, all my personal possessions, and clothing so I can bring my account current and at least get just a small fraction the interest out of the way.

7. Quit college now and take up two or three jobs. Yes, Sallie Mae asked me to do the right thing and give up.

8. Ask neighbors, people I don’t know around me, if they would be willing to pitch in and help me out. Other wise Sallie Mae would call them and do it for me.

9. Garnish my wages. My wages are student loans.

10. Call me ten times a day. As if in between hours I’m some how going to magically have sixty thousand dollars.

11. Got to love the forbearance fee. In all honesty I’m still paying considering my interest is compounding during the times the forbearance is in “effect.”

Al lord, seriously? I get it. Who doesn’t want a nice yacht, a mansion and their own personal golf course. But what is that going to mean ten years from now when you need a doctor, and there aren’t any because you pissed on all of them? What about science breakthroughs? Your yacht isn’t going to build itself. How are you going to purchase the latest high tech car or gadget when America’s engineers are all stuck working retail? Pilots. Whose going to fly you in your private jet to your favorite vacation spots around the world? YOU? There are only a small handful of people like you out there right now, Al Lord. You could do so many great things with your money and your choosing not to. The American people don’t want to be filthy rich, they just want their shot. America possesses a vast range of diverse and talented people that could change the world as we know it. Al Lord, your not one of them. Its a travesty that some one that has nothing to offer gets to make the decisions.

The 99% Deserves Free Education and Healthcare

I am in my 60s and finally paying off my student loans, but it took decades. I’ve had thoughts of loan collectors deducting payments from my social security checks when I retire or standing over my grave with an I.O.U.

In the late 60s I went to the University of Illinois to get a B.A. and tuition, fees and housing were affordable. I was also active in the vibrant political movements of the 60s and 70s and learned about the unfair nature of the economic system in which we live and work.

Politicians and predatory lenders like Sallie Mae have gradually dismantled the state land-grant system of colleges put in place when Lincoln was President. They also have chipped away at free or low-cost state systems like CUNY in New York or SUNY in California.

When I went graduate school in the 80s at Northeastern Illinois University, costs were dramatically higher. Ironically, I was enrolled in a Social Science Program with a major in Womens’ Studies but could not afford the expenses. I was a single parent with two daughters and, even with student loans, I could not pay rent, child care at the college, and other costs. Physically, I could not work part-time, attend classes and raise two children by myself. 1%ism already existed in higher education.

I left graduate school to get a full-time job. I had Dystonia which affects my speech. Many employers openly discriminated against me and I took out forbearances on my student loans which accelerated the amount of interest. The only treatment for Dystonia is bo-tox injections in the vocal cords by a skilled Neurologist or ENT Doctor. I had neither medical insurance or a job and getting a job was made more difficult by not having medical treatment for my voice.

I finally got a job and have nearly paid off the student loans, but the money I’ve paid in interest alone could have been used in a more socially beneficial way such as sending my daughters or other young people to college.

Other industrialized countries have both free, universal education and health care. The 99% and our children in this countyry deserve the same. Join the Occupy Movement and the Single Payer Movement.

Whoa! Sallie Mae just blinked!

Today, only a couple of hours after I delivered 77,000 petition signatures from Change.org users to Sallie Mae’s front door, the company issued a statement saying that it would start applying its $50 per loan forbearance fee to customers’ loan balances instead of simply pocketing the cash. They’re obviously hearing your voices loud and clear!

I want to recognize how big Sallie Mae’s shift is. Previously, the company had called this fee a “good faith deposit”, even though it wasn’t a deposit at all! After so many people doubted Sallie Mae could be moved even a little bit, this policy change certainly comes as welcome news.

But it still isn’t enough, and my campaign isn’t over. Their move today does nothing to help borrowers like me, who graduated into the worst job market for new grads since World War II. The unemployed, the underemployed, and others facing economic hardship have no extra money to pay this onerous penalty.

The fact is, there’s still no reason Sallie Mae should be charging its private loan customers this fee when it’s not charged to their federal loan customers. The United States federal government doesn’t think people need to leave a “good-faith deposit” when requesting a forbearance for financial hardship — why does Sallie Mae think this is necessary?

In fact, there are lots of questions Sallie Mae needs to publicly answer:

  • Instead of this half-measure, why doesn’t Sallie Mae go all the way to remove this onerous burden from its worst-off borrowers?
  • Does Sallie Mae still earn interest off the fees until they’re released to borrowers?
  • More importantly, do they get to continue counting the fees as cash on their financial books until the fee is applied to the loans?
  • The Associated Press reports that their new policy will be retroactive to January 1 of this year. Why not make it retroactive to when they began charging this fee? This doesn’t give me back the $300 I’ve already paid!
  • Why doesn’t Sallie Mae offer any forms of consolidation or income-based repayment to its student debtors?

It’s obvious to me that Sallie Mae isn’t at all serious about providing relief to distressed borrowers. Thankfully, there’s more you can do to push Sallie Mae to do the right thing:

  • You can call Sallie Mae spokeswoman Patricia Christel at (302) 283-4076 and tell her you want them to drop their unemployment penalty. Here’s a sample script you can use: My name is _____, and I’m calling because Sallie Mae needs to go all the way to help distressed borrowers. Drop the unemployment penalty now!
  • You can post a message to their Facebook Wall- here’s a sample message you can use:I won’t be fooled by Sallie Mae’s financial tricks and half-measures. If you’re serious about helping distressed borrowers like Stef Gray, you need to offer a real solution. Drop your unemployment penalty NOW! http://t.co/fiFCxMdG
  • You can also call them out on Twitter! Just post this message:No more tricks! If @SallieMae is serious about helping distressed borrowers, they’ll drop the unemployment penalty NOW! http://chn.ge/SallieMae

I understand that my student debt is my responsibility. It’s a debt I want to pay back. But when my mom told me that education was the key to my future, neither of us knew the game was so rigged against borrowers like me. No student considering college, or who’s in college now, should be duped into using Sallie Mae’s private financial products.

— Stef Gray